Learning via the School of Hard Knocks

To start with my stats since I last posted on October 12:

Approaches: 63

Conversations: 34 (started tracking on October 15)

Telegram Close: 11

IG Close: 11

1st Dates: 3

Looking at the data, my approach to date ratio is actually fairly decent at about 1 in 20. And the fact is, I left a lot of meat on the bone in terms of missed opportunities for dates. With that said, I consider it a vanity metric on some level because it’s not what really counts.

First, I wanted to discuss some macro level observations and lessons learned since October 12:

• I need to be more bold with escalation. Frankly, I’m sick and tired of going on platonic first dates to nowhere. They simply don’t interest me. To reduce this occurence, I’m trying to take to heart BroodingSea’s advice to NOT use coffee dates as the default date option. But rather only as a backup and make an evening date in a seductive, alcoholic venue the go-to option. BroodingSea made the apt observation that these midday coffee dates primarily serve as a screening mechanism for the girl and offer little in terms of actually advancing the interaction toward intimacy.
• Windows of opportunity. I’ve really been reflecting on what exactly this phrase means to me in a daygame context and why it’s so important. I think it goes to the crux of women’s behavioral pscyhology – that is, their emotional states of trust, intrigue and attraction. When their emotions are such that they are open to a sexual encounter, I’ve learned that I MUST act on it. I cannot assume that there will be a “next time.” Women’s emotions can change on a dime, and what they feel today may be totally different from what they feel tomorrow or even an hour from now. Unlike men, who if they want to fuck a woman, that is still going to be the case tomorrow, next week, next month and probably even next year, barring unforeseen circumstances.
• Maintaining lead acquisition is absolutely imperative. I simply cannot rest on my ass with existing leads given how quickly I churn through them for one reason or another. The only way to combat this is to go out on a consistent basis to do daygame. My goal has, and continues to be, 2 hour daily sessions with a minimum of 5 sets per session. I want to be “consistently good” rather than “occasionally great” when it comes to my daygame sessions.

1st Date with Girl Leaving for Germany:

I was almost tempted not to include this as a date in my stats because I walked out of it within a few minutes. This was a girl who was leaving for Germany in a few days, so I knew I had to make something happen on our first meet. The first sign of trouble was that she was unable to read a map well enough to find her way to the date venue. I sent her the Google link to the bar and yet she got confused, going to one of the “sponsored” search result venues that showed up at the top of the page in the Google link I sent to her.

Once I corrected that misunderstanding, she was still unable to find the venue and simply wound up at a random restaurant where she ordered a meal. Thinking it would be better to lose the battle and win the war, I decided not to try pushing for her to come to my venue and, after wandering around for awhile trying to figure out where she was, I eventually found her location.

Given the circumstances up to this point, BroodingSea said I should just redline the date and skip rapport. Although I remembered her being attractive during the set, when I saw her again in person, something had changed. Apparently she had went for a cosmetic operation on her face that day, and she was wearing the post-operation effects of the procedure, which resulted in some weird skin side effects on her face. This, combined with her shitty behavior up to this point and my lingering suspicion she was a scammer trying to lure me to a restaurant that would charge an astronomical bill, led me to stay for just a few minutes before I “went to take a call” and did not come back.

1st Date with 18 year old Chef Girl:

This girl is quite the character, although I have to admit I’m not that physically attracted to her. She admitted she doesn’t like to dress feminine, which is a big turn-off for me because that’s one of the major reasons why I like Ukrainian women, they are comfortable expressing their feminity.

When I approached her, she was wearing tights and leather shorts, which piqued my interest. The set was fairly unremarkable, but she texted me first with a video of her out drinking with friends. I’ve noticed that when a girl texts first after the initial meet, my odds of getting her on a date signicantly increase. This strengthens my theory that daygame is really a numbers game where I am filtering for yes girls, and the skill element primarily comes into play in terms of 1. recognizing opporunities and 2. not fucking up the opportunities that are presented to me.

She is definately a texter and we had a lot of back and forth texting before I met her last Sunday for a first date around 9pm. She works long hours as a cook at some restaurant in Lviv from 8am-9pm for 5-6 days at a time. She told me she ordered coffee to-go for us because the cafe was closing. I told her to come to mine so we could drink it on the balcony but she declined. On the date, we went for a night walk before sitting on a park bench. I put my arm around her and she was comfortable with it. I probably could have easily kissed her but as I mentioned, I simply wasn’t that physically attracted to her, despite her youth.

The night ended as I said goodbye to her outside my apartment, and she gave me a little keychain trinket as a gift. Again, I could have probably easily invited her inside my apartment at this point, but I chose not to because I was tired and simply didn’t want it that badly with her.

With that said, I’ve been talking with her since over text and invited her out again tonight after her work ended but she declined. I think it’s 50/50 whether I ever see her again. To be honest, I do not feel particularly strongly about it one way or the other.

1st Date with 19 Year Old International Relations Student

I really like this girl a lot. For one, she has beautiful breasts that only become apparent when she removed her winter coat on our date. That, combined with her youth and feminine demeanor, makes me really attracted to her. With that said, as with the 18 year old cook, she speaks no English and will only speak Ukrainian despite understanding Russian. This resulted in me speaking Russian to her while she replied in Ukrainian, which puts a bit of a strain on the conversation because my Ukrainian is still very basic.

The main mistake I made with this date was inviting her for a 3pm coffee date to start. This goes back to the macro level observations I noted earlier. Specifically, that I need to make my default date venue an alcoholic venue in the evening. We mostly made platonic small talk during the date, and I debated inviting her back to mine at the end of the date but chose not to because the vibe during the date was platonic, and it would seem incongruent to invite her back given those circumstances.

Having discussed the date with BroodingSea since then, I’ve learned that the best play in that situation would have actually been to invite her to a second venue, this time a seductive bar, and then tried to extract home from there.

I’ve since invited this girl out again for a second date, but she went home for about 4 days. I’ve been in comms with her during that time, with the goal of getting her to send me pictures of her hometown. Time will tell if I am able to get her out again and how it develops.

Missed Opportunities:

• Unfortunately, I had two major missed opporunities, either one of which could have ended my dry spell. First, was with a girl who was leaving in a few days for “modeling” in Dubai. As soon as I told that to BroodingSea, he concluded that she is probably a whore. In all likelihood, he is correct. With that said, I still wanted to fuck her as she was very hot. We texted a little after we met and she agreed to meet. She texted me around 10pm to ask what the plan was for the date, and I stupidly waited until almost noon the next day to reply. In retrospect, I should have texted back that night to keep the momentum going/embers burning.
  
  When I did reply back the next day, she didn’t respond, and the time of the date came and went. I contacted BroodingSea to determine what to do, and he recommended I give her a call with the goal of getting her out that night. She didn’t answer the call, but she did respond to the text message I sent right after to ask where we would be meeting. In my mind, I thought “Wow! This is great, so the date is still on,” and I rushed home from my coworking office to get ready for the date. Not 30 minutes later, she changed her mind, and I was unable to get her out. Again, this was a missed opportunity that could have been had if I practiced better lead management, followed up the same night of her question and planned the date better.
• The other major missed opportunity came just yesterday with a 29 year old girl from Luhansk. This was probably the most sexually charged daygame set I’ve ever had in my life. The sexual tension was crackling from the get-go of the set. We were standing extremely close, staring into each other’s eyes, and in retrospect, it was an excellent opportunity for an i-date with the goal of going for the SDL. Instead, I stupidly suggested we meet the next night, which she agreed to and then flaked the next day after she had time to sleep on it. Again, this was a major mistake on my part not to act on the sexually charged set in the moment, or at the least arrange to meet later that same night. Another lesson learned via the school of hard knocks.

Update on Banana Girl

This is the girl with whom I had 5 dates that started to go south when she asked to see my passport to confirm my age. I invited her out again after a week roll-off and she said she would let me know. On the day of the tentative date, she texted me to say she couldn’t make it because she had to the gym. A lame excuse indeed, and I am considering it a dead lead. In retrospect, I still think I should have taken my dick out when I had her on my bed giving me a massage, although BroodingSea thinks this would not have resulted in much due to her friend also being at my place at the time.

Dabbling in Tinder

I also restarted my Tinder account and was chatting with several very hot girls, one is an 18 year old in Lviv and the other is a 24 year old bimbo in Ivano-Frankivsk who has about 250k followers on TikTok doing nothing but posting videos of her dancing in revealing clothing. The 18 year old has ignored my multiple date requests despite engaing in lenghty text conversations with me, and I have a feeling she is probably a timewaster. Likewise for the Ivano-Frankivsk girl who asked me a lot of questions about the logistics for our proposed date before telling me she would let me know when she’s free. I don’t have high hopes for either girl, but I think Tinder could be useful as a supplement to daygame here. I don’t want to put my primary focus in it, but if it nets me 1-2 extra dates a month, I think it could be a worthwhile investment. Time will tell.

Hot Journalism Student

There was no date resulting from this set, but I have to mention it just because of how incredibly hot this girl was. She was simply sex on legs. 18 years old and had one of the most delightful looking pair of breasts I’ve ever seen in my life. I couldn’t help but steal glances at her cleavage as we spoke. Her breasts looked just wonderful, and I would have loved to have gotten my hands on them. I’m still picturing them in my mind as I type this. The set itself actually went fairly well, despite some awkwardness at the beginning when I told her I was “on my way back to my apartment,” and she misunderstood that as me inviting her back to my apartment in the moment. At the end of the set, she said she had a boyfriend, which I probed to discover that it was a new relationship. As a result, I pushed for the contact details, but she held firm in her refusal. She was simply too hot not to press for the close, and I am not surprised that she was snapped up off the market that quick having just started university in Lviv a few months ago. She is in the top 1% of the world’s hottest women easily.

Going forward

I know that I will eventually be rewarded with sex and a relationship if I just keeping pressing forward and don’t quit. I feel like I am learning at breakneck speed, and I’ve had a lot of opportunities to make something happen, most of which have been squandered by my rookie mistakes. I’m going to keep my activity levels up and continue to learn from my mistakes. I simply have no other option.

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